Dealings with NEICIC..?

[LukeD]

Wow..... Ive always had my doubt about these private schemes and their reluctance to do anything other than take fees. But from yesterdays communications with them /I really question how thinks can be so badly run in this country ? Its like trying to deal with idiots ! They have to be helped through any details and seem to have zero logic when it comes to dealing with Fraudulent EICR "passes"

 

[newfutile]

Maybe you could elaborate on what the issue is ?

 

[rewireIT]

The state of the electrical industry in this country is indeed unlike anything i've seen in any other western country. From the governance to the regulation to the way we do things to the accessories we use. It's dreadful.

 

[nicebutdim]

True. Training leaves a lot to be desired, which is where a lot of other issues stem from. People blagging their way through life, without a care for the mess left behind.

 

[Dustydazzler]

The whole industry needs a shake up , but all the while the Scams are selling yearly subs and making money Nothing will Change

i reckon I spend 3 days out of working week putting right absolute Rubbish work and re-doing completely bogus EICRs etc

Rubbish electrical installations literally Pays my Mortgage so I shouldn't really complain about the Sh!t state of the industry but I do wish it would get better..... But it won't

 

[rewireIT]

The whole industry needs a shake up , but all the while the Scams are selling yearly subs and making money

I saw an interesting comment somewhere - someone said why is the assessment yearly? Once they've assessed you as competent the first year, then you're competent, no? Your competence can't suddenly vanish on year 2 so why the yearly assessment?

All a money making scam.

 

[ipf]

The state of the electrical industry in this country is indeed unlike anything i've seen in any other western country. From the governance to the regulation to the way we do things to the accessories we use. It's dreadful.

I don't know about other countries, I just see the downward spiral created by the need for greed, here.
I've been on about the crap on here since 2010, one of my main reasons for joining. How things change.
The NIC has changed big time in the last 20 years, not least due to a certain E Clancy.
Everybody's equal on a forum, though.....hence anything controversial, or upsetting others, being treated as poison....be it fact or fiction.
It seems we've just grown to live with things, in more than one instance.

 

[rewireIT]

I don't know about other countries, I just see the downward spiral created by the need for greed, here.
I've been on about the crap on here since 2010, one of my main reasons for joining. How things change.
The NIC has changed big time in the last 20 years, not least due to a certain E Clancy.
Everybody's equal on a forum, though.....hence anything controversial, or upsetting others, being treated as poison....be it fact or fiction.
It seems we've just grown to live with things, in more than one instance.

Imo everyone should have told them to do one when the Part P scam first came out.

Instead those who were compliant with stupid rules just now claim that you're some sort of scumbag if you don't sign up.

What are the qualifications for if you can't even sign off a radial circuit as safe once you've got them? I work with lads who can wire up massive section boards and all the corresponding circuits, and do the testing, and yet can't sign off a new 16a breaker in a single phase board as safe unless they pay some company.

It's an utter joke and as far as i'm aware only happens here.

 

[nicebutdim]

From posts above I can't help wondering if schemes or Part P is the big issue for those primarily working in the domestic sector? Perhaps one is as big a pain as the other.

Part P doesn't exist in these parts and I don't see a worse standard of work here than appears to exist in England & Wales. Oddly enough convention is probably the greatest regulator over here, with the vast majority of new work adhering to accepted practices. That's not to say we don't have our fair share of shoddy work, but that there are some standards that pretty much everyone works to.

The annual inspection should probably be viewed in terms of companies, rather than individuals. As employees come and go, it makes sense that standards would be checked at set intervals. I'm not sure if schemes other than NIC operate over here, but I'm yet to see anyone registered with another scheme and NIC Approved Contractor status is often included in terms for work put out to tender.

 

[davesparks]

What are the qualifications for if you can't even sign off a radial circuit as safe once you've got them?

You can, all you need is to be qualified and competent (except if you wish to self certify for part P, but that is seperate to BS7671)

I work with lads who can wire up massive section boards and all the corresponding circuits, and do the testing, and yet can't sign off a new 16a breaker in a single phase board as safe unless they pay some company.

What is preventing them from signing it off?