special locations/part p self certification

[still learning.]

Hi I was wondering if the sockets/lights in say a kitchen are on the same circuit as the rest of the downstairs sockets/lights does it still come under a special location (need to be able to self certify or get the council in) or would it be minor works as it is the same circuit as the living room which would be minor works?

 

[Sparky Ninja]

A kitchen isn't considered a special location.

It wouldn't be the type of circuit that would define if it is a minor works. It would be the work carried out.

 

[still learning.]

ok for example replacing a single socket for a double one. would this be minor works? in a kitchen

 

[Sparky Ninja]

ok for example replacing a single socket for a double one. would this be minor works? in a kitchen

Yes it would.

 

[still learning.]

what about change of use, a fan in a kitchen spured from a socket with fcu to be taken out and replaced with a light?

 

[tonys]

Swap if for one of those that fits over a single box but offers two outlets.

 

[still learning.]

thanks tony but it's one of those tripple sockets they want putting in

 

[tonys]

Put it in then mate

 

[tonys]

what about change of use, a fan in a kitchen spured from a socket with fcu to be taken out and replaced with a light?

What take the fan out and connect a light into the fcu ?

 

[still learning.]

it's a switched fcu with 1mm twin and earth to the fan

 

[Sparky Ninja]

633.1/2 The person carrying out or responsible for the work should issue a minor works cert only when a circuit is extended or altered. This applies to each circuit.

 

[jaresquire]

A kitchen isn't considered a special location.

Although Widdler is correct in that a kitchen is not a Special Location it is still singled out as requiring Notifying for any additions to circuits or new circuits under Part P so beware!

 

[tonys]

it's a switched fcu with 1mm twin and earth to the fan

Remove the fan and fit the light and put a 3amp fuse in the spur, change it to a switched spur if it is unswitched.

 

[Sparky Ninja]

Although Widdler is correct in that a kitchen is not a Special Location it is still singled out as requiring Notifying for any additions to circuits or new circuits under Part P so beware!

That would be because of kitchen fitters

 

[still learning.]

Although Widdler is correct in that a kitchen is not a Special Location it is still singled out as requiring Notifying for any additions to circuits or new circuits under Part P so beware!

so changing the socket from a single to a tripple wouldn't be an addition but changing the fan to light would because I will need to extend the cable by means of crimps and heatshrink tubing

 

[Sparky Ninja]

Are you trying to determine if the work is notifiable? if it's in a special location? or what type of certificate to use?

I'm confused?

 

[still learning.]

if it's notifiable, the work is in a kitchen.

 

[Sparky Ninja]

if it's notifiable, the work is in a kitchen.

The work can be notifiable and not in the kitchen.

 

[still learning.]

sorry let me start again
ive been asked to change a single socket to a tripple socket and to take a fan out (spured from a socket via a switched fcu) extend the cable and put a light on it, they are both in the kitchen. Is this work notifiable?

 

[Sparky Ninja]

sorry let me start again
ive been asked to change a single socket to a tripple socket and to take a fan out (spured from a socket via a switched fcu) extend the cable and put a light on it, they are both in the kitchen. Is this work notifiable?

The cabling and light point work is notifiable and will need a minor works certificate.

 

[still learning.]

hi tony just letting you know your PM Message box is full and it won't let me send one to uou