Our first property - seller says CU is older than 2005 - no cert required

[Spoon]

No, it's a metal MK Sentry Consumer unit of current design. I've fitted a few.

In England and Wales (Part P 2013 and 2010 editions respectively) there should have been a notification submitted to the local authority building control that the consumer unit has been replaced. There should also be an Electrical Installation Certificate for the work (a consumer unit change requires this).

Hi @Benuk. Personally I wouldn't sign anything until you have seen the above or after one is done. You do not know the condition of the electrics and as you say, if they have lied about this then you never know what else they have done.

 

[SparkyChick]

I think you need to be a bit careful.

Talk to your solicitor. The suggestion about the EICR from the guys is good, but I might be inclined to get the work regularised with your LABC so there can be no question of you being responsible for it not being notified in the future.

 

[westward10]

I would insist on seeing the building control notification and an eicr.

 

[Benuk]

Thanks for the advice all Greatly appreciated

 

[Midwest]

Its definitely not been installed prior to...………………..Just thought I'd be about the 5th member to tell the OP that


OP, you could do a search on your local authority web site, to see if the new consumer unit change has been notified to them at that address. Such as you can for planning permissions, building regs approval on building work (thats if you reside in England & Wales). If it had been installed complying with Part P Building regs, it will be listed on the LBC web site. Not that will get you the required certification, but its a starting point.

 

[telectrix]

cynic in me says maybe the new CU is there to make the installation lookt he dog's bollox, but behind the walls there could be the pig's arse. get an eicr done as a start.

 

[Jamie']

Board Is also missing a blank at the end of the mcbs. What the other guys/gals have said previous is correct.

 

[netblindpaul]

Inspection and testing of electrical installations has been required by the "wiring regulations" since 1882, the first edition, it is there, I have a copy.
Certification has been required since the 14th Edition, my version is 1970.
Notification of such changes to Building Control under Building Regulations requirements has been necessary since 2005.
BS EN 61439-3 was published on the 31st May 2012.
So it seems that the property developer has not done his homework.
One word of caution, if you get an EICR done before purchase, then you will be purchasing the house with the known defects, thus you will have no legal recourse, I've just been there with a house purchase I was involved with.
If you get it done after, and it can be proven that false information was furnished to the solicitors/as a legal document, then you would have legal recourse.
It's an awkward situation, but either way it is difficult to decide, and prove.

 

[Risteard]

I see an obvious C1 defect on that DB.

 

[Octopus]

One thing for sure is that the seller is lying..............

 

[Squid]

No, it's a metal MK Sentry Consumer unit of current design. I've fitted a few.

In England and Wales (Part P 2013 and 2010 editions respectively) there should have been a notification submitted to the local authority building control that the consumer unit has been replaced. There should also be an Electrical Installation Certificate for the work (a consumer unit change requires this).

You must be fun on a date night out hun ;o))))

 

[SparkyChick]

You must be fun on a date night out hun ;o))))

I think I've said before... my favourite topics of conversation are complex technical problems and hearing stories and anecdotes from people I can learn from. That and the obvious small talk around personal interests and such (I like to know what makes people tick).

The obvious sexism you exhibit aside (which I think is you just flexing your male ego to be one of the lads - which I don't really have a problem with as I find a lot of male posturing quite funny), I think you and I could have a right good chat.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Board Is also missing a blank at the end of the mcbs. What the other guys/gals have said previous is correct

and circuit 1 Rcd supply .now why would you put that on when is Rcd protected .

 

[Squid]

I think I've said before... my favourite topics of conversation are complex technical problems and hearing stories and anecdotes from people I can learn from. That and the obvious small talk around personal interests and such (I like to know what makes people tick).

The obvious sexism you exhibit aside (which I think is you just flexing your male ego to be one of the lads - which I don't really have a problem with as I find a lot of male posturing quite funny), I think you and I could have a right good chat.

I am not sexist, I am a European male of Polish heritage and am a gentleman, I have been taught to treat women with the utmost respect and to some how put them on a pedastal (might be a tad tough with a 18 stone Welsh lass), seeing you are a downtrodden Welsh lass you tar all males with the same brush, you really need a "proper" man in your life ;o))))

Funnily enough I was bought up with women, most of my friends are women (No I am not gay) so I know the secrets........

As you said, I'd reckon we could have a right laugh on a night out, sleep tight ---

 

[buzzlightyear]

(might be a tad tough with a 18 stone Welsh lass),

mmm, swd so what are you saying.

 

[Squid]

mmm, swd so what are you saying.

I posted that up in the past, SC wasn't impressed with Nessa as no Knipex tools in the bra holster.

 

[Des 56]

Sparkychic lives here in Wales

She has yet to qualify as being anywhere near a 18 stone Welsh
( lass ) lady

There are no such things as downtrodden Welsh lasses
Our womenfolk are a more forceful band than us males,they would be too much woman to handle for you outsiders

 

[SparkyChick]

might be a tad tough with a 18 stone Welsh lass

You shouldn't have any problems with me then as I'm not that big

seeing you are a downtrodden Welsh lass you tar all males with the same brush, you really need a "proper" man in your life ;o))))

Don't have time for any man in my life. Have too many things I want to do and most of them involve being somewhat anti-social.

 

[freddo]

Not to cast aspersions against the DIYers, but it looks like quite a nice tidy job... on the outside at least.

We have very different levels of standard. For a start there is a blank missing...

 

[SparkyChick]

We have very different levels of standard. For a start there is a blank missing...

I did say on the outside... it was a very quick look. What caught my eye was the fact the tails were nicely clipped